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Why Music Venues Are Totally Lost (…. and not only in the USA): An Open Letter from a Professional Musician

Why Music Venues Are Totally Lost: An Open Letter from a Professional Musician

FEBRUARY 13, 2012358 COMMENTS AND 285 REACTIONS

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Jazz musician Dave Goldberg wrote a pointed and darkly humorous open letter to LA club owners that I thought was worth sharing. In it, he argues that it’s actually a counterproductive practice for venues to book bands who are willing to work for free. And when I say “counterproductive,” I mean it’s bad for the venue’s business.

To read the whole letter, click HERE. But below are a few of the highlights:

Just the other day I was told by someone who owned a wine bar that they really liked our music and would love for us to play at their place. She then told me the gig paid $75 for a trio. Now $75 used to be bad money per person, let alone $75 for the whole band. It had to be a joke, right? No, she was serious.But it didn’t end there. She then informed us we had to bring 25 people minimum. Didn’t even offer us extra money if we brought 25 people. I would have laughed other than it’s not the first time I’ve gotten this proposal from club owners. But are there musicians really doing this? Yes. They are so desperate to play, they will do anything.

But lets think about this for a second and turn this around a little bit.What if I told the wine bar owner that I have a great band and we are going to play at my house. I need someone to provide and pour wine while we play. I can’t pay much, just $75 and you must bring at least 25 people who are willing to pay a $10 cover charge at the door. Now wouldn’t they look at you like you are crazy?

“Why would I do that,” they would ask? Well, because it’s great exposure for you and your wine bar. The people there would see how well you pour wine and see how good your wine is. Then they would come out to your wine bar sometime. ”But I brought all the people myself, I already know them,” they would say. Well maybe you could make up some professional looking flyers, pass them out, and get people you don’t know to come on out. ”But you are only paying me $75, How can I afford to make up flyers?”

You see how absurd this sounds, but musicians do this all the time. If they didn’t, then the club owners wouldn’t even think of asking us to do it. So this sounds like a great deal for the club owners, doesn’t it? They get a band and customers for that night, and have to pay very little if anything. But what they don’t realize is that this is NOT in their best interest. Running a restaurant, a club, a bar, is really hard. There is a lot at stake for the owner. You are trying to get loyal customers that will return because you are offering them something special. If you want great food, you hire a great chef. If you want great décor,you hire a great interior decorator. You expect these professionals to do their best at what you are hiring them to do. It needs to be the same with the band.You hire a great band and should expect great music.That should be the end of your expectations for the musicians. The music is another product for the venue to offer, no different from food or beverages.

When a venue opens it’s doors, it has to market itself. The club owner can’t expect people to just walk in the door. This has to be handled in aprofessional way. Do you really want to leave something so important up to a musician?

This is where the club owner needs to take over. It is their success or their failure on the line, not the musician.The musician can just move on to another venue. I’ve played places where for whatever reason only a few people have walked in the door on a Saturday night. The club owner got mad at me, asking where are the people? I turned it around on him asking the same thing? Where are all the people? It’s Saturday night and your venue is empty. Doesn’t that concern you? What are you going to do about it? Usually their answer is to find another band with a larger following. This means the professional bands get run out of the joint in favor of whoever can bring in the most people.

He then makes the point that professional bands will have a somewhat harder time playing the “friend and family” card because, well… they’re pros! They play every night.

But here’s where the club owner doesn’t get it. The crowd is following the band, not the venue. The next night you will have to start all over again. And the people that were starting to follow your venue are now turned off because you just made them listen to a bad band. The goal should be to build a fan base of the venue. To get people that will trust that you will have good music in there every night. Instead, you’ve soiled your reputation for a quick fix.

If you asked a club owner, ”who is your target demographic?” I doubt they would answer ”the band’s friends and family.” But yet clubs operate likeit is.

… would you expect the chef’s friends and family to eat at your restaurant every night? How about the dishwasher, the waitresses, the hostess? Or how about the club owner’s friends and family? You see,when you start turning this argument around, it becomes silly.

So what does Dave suggest? Start fighting back, with calm, reasoned arguments. He explains:

I’ve started arguing with club owners about this. It happened after I played a great night of music in LA. We were playing for a % of the bar. There were about 50 people there in this small venue, so it was a good turnout. At the end of the night, I go to get paid, and hope to book another gig. The club owner was angry.

“Where are your people?” he asked. ”All these people, I brought in. We had a speed dating event  and they are all left over from that.”

I pointed out they all stayed and listened to the music for 2 hours after their event ended. That was 2 more hours of bar sales, because without us, you have an empty room with nothing going on. He just couldn’t get over the fact that we didn’t walk in with our own entourage of fans. Wasn’t happy that we kept a full room spending money. Right when we were talking, a group of people interrupted us and said ”you guys sound  great, when is the next time you’re playing here again?” The club owner, said ”they aren’t, they didn’t  bring anyone.”

I went home that night bummed out and sent him an email. Telling him most of what you are reading here and how his business model and thinking is flawed. After a lot of swearing back and forth, because I’m guessing that musicians never talk to him as a business equal, he eventually admitted that what I was saying made sense. BUT, that’s not how LA clubs and restaurants work. And he has bands answering his craigslist ads willing to do whatever it takes to get the gig. It’s been a couple of years now since that conversation. I called his bar, and the number is disconnected.

So what do you think? Can this battle be won by reasoning with one venue at a time? Or have the economics of the live music world shifted forever beyond our influence? We’d love to hear about your experiences as a live musician. Please feel free to comment in the section below.

Chris R. at CD Baby

[editor's note: Most talent-buyers, venue owners, show promoters, and club bookers do not resemble the sleazy pay-to-play club booker pictured above. Most of the time it's best to view them as partners or allies in your event's success. Treat these industry professionals with courtesy and respect. If they give you cause for argument-- stay calm, state your points, and be ready to walk away! You can choose to never use a certain bridge again. It doesn't have to burned down entirely.]  


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CATERINA VALENTE BLEIBT IHREN GRUNDSÄTZEN IMMER TREU, UND SO WAR SIE AUCH HIER NICHT FÜR EIN INTERVIEW ZU ÜBERREDEN. SIE HAT ES SICH ABER NICHT NEHMEN LASSEN, SOHN ERIC VAN ARO BEI DEN DREHARBEITEN DER ARD SERIE “LEGENDEN” EINEN BESUCH ABZUSTATTEN. ZU SEHEN IST DAS PORTRAIT ÜBER CATERINA VALENTE AM 18.04.2012 UM 22.45 UHR IN DER ARD


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EVIL GAMES (the tabloid song) Review by Micheal Morgan

“Evil Games (Original Mix)” starts off with a low bass mid tempo synth beat, a perfect tempo for workout music . The singer’s voice is a low-baritone as if Frank Zappa and Barry White got together for a coffee conversation, and then decided to call it a DJ-set.  The vague lyrics of the song have political overtones and are reflective of the economic and political uncertainty of the times: “No news aint good news so the papers say.”  The vocal tone and quality when the lyrics “Evil games. Stop em playin’…” are sung, sounds strikingly similar to pop singer Seal’s breath-taking, soaring voice. The end of the song tails off into the wind with some fussy-sounding muted guitar fills and a drunken frenetic beat.  The contemporary and soothing sounds would be a good fit for a movie drama scene or even a television commercial.


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Peter Stormare’s obsession with Billie Holiday

Peter Stormare’s obsession with Billie Holiday July 25, 2011 (c) Los Angeles Times


The character actor and musician assembles an eclectic group of artists such as Esperanza Spalding and Angela Bassett for ‘A Tribute to Billie Holiday.

It would be quite a stretch to watch Peter Stormare’s turn as the demonically silent henchman Gaear Grimsrud in “Fargo” and think, “This is a man moved to tears by the music of Billie Holiday.” But the man who pushed Steve Buscemi into a wood chipper in the Coen brothers’ classic knew he wanted to be an artist after being cut to the bone by Lady Day’s music and life story.

“I grew up in a snowy Swedish town, and when I heard her music and read ‘Lady Sings the Blues,’ I couldn’t fathom her life,” he said, driving through downtown Los Angeles en route to a video shoot for a collaboration between Christina Aguilera and Maroon 5. “Her story was a dagger. I felt her blood and pain, and I knew right then I had to leave for America and be an artist.”

Holiday’s music and story became a deep-rooted passion for the actor, who consistently steals scenes in darkly funny character roles in films such as “The Big Lebowski” and “Constantine” (in which he played Satan). This month, his boutique record label, StormVox, is releasing “A Tribute to Billie Holiday,” its most high-profile release yet. Recent best new artist Grammy-winner Esperanza Spalding, producer maven Babyface and folk standout Rickie Lee Jones are among the pointedly eclectic artists tasked with re-imagining Holiday’s standards, no mean feat given the singularity of the originals.

“I’ll Look Around” is one of the most beautiful songs ever recorded, Stormare notes, adding, “But Esperanza Spalding took today’s view of it. I grew up in theater where we do plays over and over, and every time I hear that you can’t remake Hitchcock I think ‘Why not?’ That goes for music too.”

Stormare, a musician and songwriter in his band Blonde From Fargo, knew he couldn’t compete with the originals. “‘Strange Fruit’ is a landmark of the civil rights era,” he said. “She was a Martin Luther King for music.” In hiring Angela Bassett to read parts of Holiday’s memoir as interludes, he underlined that the album was meant to tell her life story as well as explore her catalog.

“Tribute” was a labor of love that also threw his bank account into the metaphorical wood chipper. But he felt he had no choice.

“I had to sell my cabin in Big Bear to finance the album,” he said, laughing ruefully. “But I had to do it. I had to get this out of my system.”

Photo: Peter Stormare in Touchstone Pictures’/Jerry Bruckheimer Films movie Bad Comapny

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2011/07/personal-playlist-peter-stormares-obsession-with-billie-holiday.html


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This rehearsal footage gave me goose bumps!


What a rip off……AMAZON sells Caterina Valente Live 68 CD&DVD without the DVD!!! and that’s not all….

Dear friends,
a lot of you have contacted us after having bought some of our products at Amazon…….. and WOW……are you right to be angry!!!!!
Amazon, without our knowledge, have listed and are selling Caterina’s and Eric’s CDs which are actually CDrs burned by Amazon from Mp3s. In fact, if you look closely at the listings, it is written that it is so. But, apart of the fact that it is not the original CD, not the original booklet, for example, in the Caterina Valente Live 1968 CD & DVD, the DVD with the Heidelberg TV Special is missing!!!! (they don’t burn DVDs…. I wonder why)
WHAT A RIP OFF!!!!
Here are the cover pictures of the CDr listings, you clearly recognize them by the blue bar on top of the cover….. so if you see a listing with a cover picture with a blue bar…. IT AIN’T THE ORIGINAL PRODUCT.
So PLEASE, before ordering anything on-line, read everything carefully.
Be assured that we are doing everything to stop this…. as these are not the products we have released!
You are entitled to get the real thing!

In the mean time here is a link to the original Caterina Valente Live 68 CD&DVD at amazon.de (Germany)… no blue bar on the top of the cover :)

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We will keep you posted and a big thank you to all of you who have informed us about this situation. It is thanks to you we can do something about it.

Cheers
Renee


Party at the Bird’s Nest for The Manhattan Transfer and The New York Voices (July 3rd 2011)

What a great Sunday this was. We had lots of laughs (Alan and Peter won the award for best costume….) great food (Donatello outdid himself with culinary goodies) the music was not missing (Cristina, Sebastiano and Alberto got to sing with The Manhattan Transfer and the New York Voices) and a humongous amount of love and true friendship!
LIFE IS GOOD!
Photos courtesy of Janis Siegel, Barb Sennet Wilson, Eric van Aro

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Carmen McRae…. one of my all time favorites with one of the most beautiful songs ever. Michel Legrand and Marylin & Alan Bergman’s “What are you doing with the rest of your life”! Just listen to the sublime guitar of Joe Pass and what Carmen does with the song!!!


THAT’S THE WAY IT IS DONE! Jennifer Holliday, Obba Babatundé, Loretta Devine and more in one of the greatest moments on Broadway. The ultimate combination of great material, perfect arrangements and extraordinary performers! There is a lesson to be learned!!!